----- Original Message -----
From: alvin.robinson@us.army.mil
To: jeremy@mma-fighter.com, president@nagafighter.com, info@fightworld.com, staff@sfuk.net, bruce@maxfighting.com, dougie@maxfighting.com, eddieg@maxfighting.com, HOOKnSHOOT@aol.com, jimburleson@yahoo.com, news@sherdog.com, bbird@brandonbird.com, info@ufc.tv, pridefcinfo@pridefc.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:17:33 -0500

Subject: Proving “Mixed Martial Arts” based systems are best for the U.S. Army

Dear Sirs,

My name is Sergeant First Class A.C. Robinson currently working in the Special Operations community in Fort Bragg, North Carolina. My dilemma is trying to find proof that fighting methods shaped after what is used in "Mixed Martial Arts" is best for Soldiers to use on the "Street" and on the "Battlefield". The majority of the military population is being taught a system of self-defense called Linear Infighting Neural-override Engagement or L.I.N.E.S. which was first adopted by the Marine Corp and developed by Mr. Ronald Don Vito. It is a system of choreographed movement with emphasis on joint manipulation, groin strikes, eye gouging and having the element of surprise. My questions to anyone who is willing to answer are:

1. Is "Self-defense" and "Fighting" the same thing?

2. From actual confrontations in the "Ring" and on the "Street" is choreographed movement effective?

3. Do all Mixed Martial Artists focus on "tackling" and staying on the ground?

4. What is Mixed Martial Artists at its lowest level or basic form?

5. To anyone who has seen or used L.I.N.E.S. is it Mixed Martial Arts at its lowest level or basic form?

6. To anyone who has seen or used L.I.N.E.S. would you use this system against a Mixed Martial Artists?

7. To anyone who has seen or used L.I.N.E.S. would you use this system on the "Street"?

8. Would a Mixed Martial Artist feel comfortable using there system out side of the "Ring" or on the "Street"?

I am a huge supporter of Mixed Martial Arts as a "Sport" and as one of the best systems to use on the "Street". In my opinion the L.I.N.E.S. system gives Soldiers a false sense of security and cons them into thinking "that they can fight". I need any help that you can provide separating "fact" from "fiction" when it comes to Mixed Martial Arts.


A. C. Robinson
U.S. Army
Engineer Sergeant

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Bird
To: alvin.robinson

I don't understand: Are you asking me if I want to fight you?


----- Original Message -----
From: alvin.robinson@us.army.mil
To: Brandon Bird

Dear Mr. Brandon Bird,

You obviously misunderstood my last e-mail or didn't take the time to read it. I am doing research trying to prove that the most effective hand-to-hand fighting system for the United States Army should be stuctured after what is being used in the "Mixed Martial Arts" world. I was seeking your advice and input on that matter. I apoligize if I have offended you. Thanks for your time.

SFC Robinson